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Yankees Are Still Producing Players from Baseball America
By Matt Eddy
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The Yankees’ farm system is justly given the lion’s share of the credit for the club’s championship run of the late-90s, when stars like Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte and Jorge Posada formed the core of four World Series winners. But with their second straight Division Series bouncing last season, the Yankees’ World Series “drought” stands at six years and counting.
Many cite a weakened farm system as the chief culprit for the lack of results, but a closer examination reveals this is not the case. Because while the quantity of players the Yankees have churned out since 2000 has been just average, the quality of such players has been better than all but five organizations. While much of that advantage is purely fiscal, with many of the club’s prospects arriving as finished international products (think Orlando Hernandez, Jose Contreras and Hideki Matsui), the Yankees also have developed Eric Milton, Mike Lowell, Nick Johnson and Juan Rivera, all of whom they cashed in for big league help. And were it not for Alfonso Soriano, Alex Rodriguez would not be in pinstripes.
Plenty of 40-man roster studies have detailed the raw number of players developed by each of the 30 organizations, but we wanted to look at it from a different angle. Specifically, we sought to find out just how successful the developed players have been, looking for quality and quantity. To do so, we quantified success in terms of playing time—plate appearances for hitters and innings pitched for pitchers—because a player has to display a level of competence to keep his job. After all, it’s easy to replace incompetence with less-experienced, and thus cheaper, incompetence.
Players on 40-man rosters as of mid-March were considered, with each credited to his signing organization. But there’s a twist: Only players signed since 1995 were considered, to better illustrate the teams’ recent player development acumen. For example, we didn’t think the Pirates should still be getting credit for nabbing Barry Bonds in the 1985 draft.
In order to combine the contributions of batters and pitchers, we credited a player with a "season" for each batting (502 PA) or ERA (162 IP) title he qualified for.
In case you’re wondering, the Blue Jays also came out on top when considering all 1,185 players on rosters, thanks largely to seven grizzled veterans signed in the 1980s: Jose Mesa, David Wells, Mike Timlin, Dave Weathers, Woody Williams, Carlos Delgado and Jeff Kent.
Total Player Seasons Produced By Organizations Since 1995
No. Team Players Hitters Seasons Pitchers Seasons Total
1 Blue Jays 42 21 65.4 21 24.1 89.5
2 Athletics 37 17 38.7 20 43.5 82.2
3 Rockies 38 19 46.6 19 31.0 77.5
4 Phillies 31 12 41.1 19 32.8 74.0
5 Cubs 39 10 13.7 29 55.5 69.2
6 Yankees 35 17 40.2 18 27.4 67.6
7 Angels 34 19 27.2 15 38.5 65.7
8 Diamondbacks 47 22 24.2 25 40.1 64.3
9 Astros 36 14 30.8 22 32.2 63.0
10 Marlins 29 11 29.8 18 31.0 60.8
11 Cardinals 26 16 41.8 10 18.7 60.6
12 Rangers 25 10 32.8 15 25.5 58.3
13 Mariners 39 19 36.8 20 21.5 58.3
14 Red Sox 37 14 29.7 23 26.2 55.9
15 Expos/Nationals 28 14 36.3 14 11.3 47.6
16 Pirates 40 16 15.0 24 32.1 47.2
17 White Sox 36 18 18.3 18 27.9 46.2
18 Braves 40 21 30.7 19 15.0 45.7
19 Indians 32 17 27.4 15 17.6 45.0
20 Reds 20 9 25.9 11 17.7 43.6
21 Mets 30 15 25.1 15 16.9 42.0
22 Devil Rays 31 16 28.5 15 13.5 42.0
23 Twins 34 13 33.1 21 8.9 42.0
24 Padres 25 9 8.7 16 25.2 33.9
25 Royals 27 11 19.2 16 14.6 33.9
26 Giants 34 8 3.1 26 30.5 33.6
27 Tigers 24 12 15.0 12 15.3 30.3
28 Orioles 23 7 14.6 16 13.2 27.8
29 Dodgers 34 15 13.5 19 14.2 27.7
30 Brewers 21 11 17.6 10 8.8 26.4
Clubs' Five Most Experienced Players Signed Since 1995
No. Team Five Most Experienced Players Signed Since 1995
1 Blue Jays RHP Roy Halladay, SS Michael Young, CF Vernon Wells, RF Jay Gibbons, SS Cesar Izturis
2 Athletics RHP Tim Hudson, 3B Eric Chavez, LHP Barry Zito, LHP Mark Mulder, SS Angel Berroa
3 Rockies 1B Todd Helton, CF Juan Pierre, RHP Jason Jennings, SS Juan Uribe, RHP Jake Westbrook
4 Phillies SS Jimmy Rollins, LF Pat Burrell, LHP Randy Wolf, 2B Marlon Anderson, RHP Adam Eaton
5 Cubs RHP Jon Garland, RHP Kerry Wood, RHP Carlos Zambrano, RHP Kyle Lohse, CF Corey Patterson
6 Yankees LHP Eric Milton, 3B Mike Lowell, 2B Alfonso Soriano, RHP Orlando Hernandez, 1B Nick Johnson
7 Angels 1B Darin Erstad, 3B Troy Glaus, LHP Jarrod Washburn, RHP Ramon Ortiz, RHP John Lackey
8 Diamondbacks RHP Brad Penny, RHP Vicente Padilla, RHP Brandon Webb, RHP Byung-Hyun Kim, 1B Lyle Overbay
9 Astros LF/1B Lance Berkman, SS Julio Lugo, RHP Roy Oswalt, LHP Johan Santana, RHP Wade Miller
10 Marlins RHP Livan Hernandez, CF Mark Kotsay, CF Randy Winn, RHP Josh Beckett, LF Miguel Cabrera
11 Cardinals RHP Matt Morris, 1B Albert Pujols, 2B Adam Kennedy, RF J.D. Drew, SS Jack Wilson
12 Rangers RHP Ryan Dempster, LHP Doug Davis, 3B Hank Blalock, 1B Mark Teixeira, RHP Aaron Harang
13 Mariners RF Jose Cruz, RF Ichiro Suzuki, C Jason Varitek, RHP Joel Pineiro, RHP Gil Meche
14 Red Sox SS David Eckstein, 3B Shea Hillenbrand, RHP Tomo Ohka, LHP Mike Maroth, SS Adam Everett
15 Expos/Nationals C Michael Barrett, LF Brad Wilkerson, CF Milton Bradley, C Brian Schneider, LHP Cliff Lee
16 Pirates RHP Kris Benson, RHP Bronson Arroyo, RF Rob Mackowiak, 2B Jose Castillo, LHP Ricardo Rincon
17 White Sox LHP Mark Buehrle, RHP Kip Wells, RHP Josh Fogg, 3B Joe Crede, CF Aaron Rowand
18 Braves SS Rafael Furcal, 2B Marcus Giles, RHP Jason Marquis, 3B Mark DeRosa, LHP Horacio Ramirez
19 Indians 1B Sean Casey, LHP C.C. Sabathia, C Victor Martinez, RHP Danys Baez, SS Jhonny Peralta
20 Reds RHP Brett Tomko, LF Adam Dunn, C Jason LaRue, CF Brady Clark, RF Austin Kearns
21 Mets RHP A.J. Burnett, 3B Ty Wigginton, SS Jose Reyes, CF Endy Chavez, RHP Jae Seo
22 Devil Rays 3B Aubrey Huff, LF Carl Crawford, LHP Joe Kennedy, C Toby Hall, CF Rocco Baldelli
23 Twins LF Jacque Jones, 1B Doug Mientkiewicz, RF Bobby Kielty, RF Mike Cuddyer, 1B Justin Morneau
24 Padres RHP Rodrigo Lopez, RHP Brian Lawrence, RHP Jake Peavy, LHP Oliver Perez, SS Khalil Greene
25 Royals CF Carlos Beltran, 2B Mark Ellis, CF David DeJesus, LHP Jeremy Affeldt, LHP Jimmy Gobble
26 Giants RHP Russ Ortiz, RHP Joe Nathan, LHP Noah Lowry, RHP Jerome Williams, RHP Scott Linebrink
27 Tigers RHP Jeff Weaver, 3B Brandon Inge, 2B Omar Infante, SS Ramon Santiago, CF Curtis Granderson
28 Orioles 2B Brian Roberts, OF David Dellucci, LHP Erik Bedard, RHP Daniel Cabrera, RHP Rick Bauer
29 Dodgers SS Alex Cora, RHP Eric Gagne, C David Ross, CF Shane Victorino, RHP Scott Proctor
30 Brewers LF Geoff Jenkins, RHP Ben Sheets, SS Bill Hall, 2B Rickie Weeks, 1B Prince Fielder
By Matt Eddy
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The Yankees’ farm system is justly given the lion’s share of the credit for the club’s championship run of the late-90s, when stars like Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte and Jorge Posada formed the core of four World Series winners. But with their second straight Division Series bouncing last season, the Yankees’ World Series “drought” stands at six years and counting.
Many cite a weakened farm system as the chief culprit for the lack of results, but a closer examination reveals this is not the case. Because while the quantity of players the Yankees have churned out since 2000 has been just average, the quality of such players has been better than all but five organizations. While much of that advantage is purely fiscal, with many of the club’s prospects arriving as finished international products (think Orlando Hernandez, Jose Contreras and Hideki Matsui), the Yankees also have developed Eric Milton, Mike Lowell, Nick Johnson and Juan Rivera, all of whom they cashed in for big league help. And were it not for Alfonso Soriano, Alex Rodriguez would not be in pinstripes.
Plenty of 40-man roster studies have detailed the raw number of players developed by each of the 30 organizations, but we wanted to look at it from a different angle. Specifically, we sought to find out just how successful the developed players have been, looking for quality and quantity. To do so, we quantified success in terms of playing time—plate appearances for hitters and innings pitched for pitchers—because a player has to display a level of competence to keep his job. After all, it’s easy to replace incompetence with less-experienced, and thus cheaper, incompetence.
Players on 40-man rosters as of mid-March were considered, with each credited to his signing organization. But there’s a twist: Only players signed since 1995 were considered, to better illustrate the teams’ recent player development acumen. For example, we didn’t think the Pirates should still be getting credit for nabbing Barry Bonds in the 1985 draft.
In order to combine the contributions of batters and pitchers, we credited a player with a "season" for each batting (502 PA) or ERA (162 IP) title he qualified for.
In case you’re wondering, the Blue Jays also came out on top when considering all 1,185 players on rosters, thanks largely to seven grizzled veterans signed in the 1980s: Jose Mesa, David Wells, Mike Timlin, Dave Weathers, Woody Williams, Carlos Delgado and Jeff Kent.
Total Player Seasons Produced By Organizations Since 1995
No. Team Players Hitters Seasons Pitchers Seasons Total
1 Blue Jays 42 21 65.4 21 24.1 89.5
2 Athletics 37 17 38.7 20 43.5 82.2
3 Rockies 38 19 46.6 19 31.0 77.5
4 Phillies 31 12 41.1 19 32.8 74.0
5 Cubs 39 10 13.7 29 55.5 69.2
6 Yankees 35 17 40.2 18 27.4 67.6
7 Angels 34 19 27.2 15 38.5 65.7
8 Diamondbacks 47 22 24.2 25 40.1 64.3
9 Astros 36 14 30.8 22 32.2 63.0
10 Marlins 29 11 29.8 18 31.0 60.8
11 Cardinals 26 16 41.8 10 18.7 60.6
12 Rangers 25 10 32.8 15 25.5 58.3
13 Mariners 39 19 36.8 20 21.5 58.3
14 Red Sox 37 14 29.7 23 26.2 55.9
15 Expos/Nationals 28 14 36.3 14 11.3 47.6
16 Pirates 40 16 15.0 24 32.1 47.2
17 White Sox 36 18 18.3 18 27.9 46.2
18 Braves 40 21 30.7 19 15.0 45.7
19 Indians 32 17 27.4 15 17.6 45.0
20 Reds 20 9 25.9 11 17.7 43.6
21 Mets 30 15 25.1 15 16.9 42.0
22 Devil Rays 31 16 28.5 15 13.5 42.0
23 Twins 34 13 33.1 21 8.9 42.0
24 Padres 25 9 8.7 16 25.2 33.9
25 Royals 27 11 19.2 16 14.6 33.9
26 Giants 34 8 3.1 26 30.5 33.6
27 Tigers 24 12 15.0 12 15.3 30.3
28 Orioles 23 7 14.6 16 13.2 27.8
29 Dodgers 34 15 13.5 19 14.2 27.7
30 Brewers 21 11 17.6 10 8.8 26.4
Clubs' Five Most Experienced Players Signed Since 1995
No. Team Five Most Experienced Players Signed Since 1995
1 Blue Jays RHP Roy Halladay, SS Michael Young, CF Vernon Wells, RF Jay Gibbons, SS Cesar Izturis
2 Athletics RHP Tim Hudson, 3B Eric Chavez, LHP Barry Zito, LHP Mark Mulder, SS Angel Berroa
3 Rockies 1B Todd Helton, CF Juan Pierre, RHP Jason Jennings, SS Juan Uribe, RHP Jake Westbrook
4 Phillies SS Jimmy Rollins, LF Pat Burrell, LHP Randy Wolf, 2B Marlon Anderson, RHP Adam Eaton
5 Cubs RHP Jon Garland, RHP Kerry Wood, RHP Carlos Zambrano, RHP Kyle Lohse, CF Corey Patterson
6 Yankees LHP Eric Milton, 3B Mike Lowell, 2B Alfonso Soriano, RHP Orlando Hernandez, 1B Nick Johnson
7 Angels 1B Darin Erstad, 3B Troy Glaus, LHP Jarrod Washburn, RHP Ramon Ortiz, RHP John Lackey
8 Diamondbacks RHP Brad Penny, RHP Vicente Padilla, RHP Brandon Webb, RHP Byung-Hyun Kim, 1B Lyle Overbay
9 Astros LF/1B Lance Berkman, SS Julio Lugo, RHP Roy Oswalt, LHP Johan Santana, RHP Wade Miller
10 Marlins RHP Livan Hernandez, CF Mark Kotsay, CF Randy Winn, RHP Josh Beckett, LF Miguel Cabrera
11 Cardinals RHP Matt Morris, 1B Albert Pujols, 2B Adam Kennedy, RF J.D. Drew, SS Jack Wilson
12 Rangers RHP Ryan Dempster, LHP Doug Davis, 3B Hank Blalock, 1B Mark Teixeira, RHP Aaron Harang
13 Mariners RF Jose Cruz, RF Ichiro Suzuki, C Jason Varitek, RHP Joel Pineiro, RHP Gil Meche
14 Red Sox SS David Eckstein, 3B Shea Hillenbrand, RHP Tomo Ohka, LHP Mike Maroth, SS Adam Everett
15 Expos/Nationals C Michael Barrett, LF Brad Wilkerson, CF Milton Bradley, C Brian Schneider, LHP Cliff Lee
16 Pirates RHP Kris Benson, RHP Bronson Arroyo, RF Rob Mackowiak, 2B Jose Castillo, LHP Ricardo Rincon
17 White Sox LHP Mark Buehrle, RHP Kip Wells, RHP Josh Fogg, 3B Joe Crede, CF Aaron Rowand
18 Braves SS Rafael Furcal, 2B Marcus Giles, RHP Jason Marquis, 3B Mark DeRosa, LHP Horacio Ramirez
19 Indians 1B Sean Casey, LHP C.C. Sabathia, C Victor Martinez, RHP Danys Baez, SS Jhonny Peralta
20 Reds RHP Brett Tomko, LF Adam Dunn, C Jason LaRue, CF Brady Clark, RF Austin Kearns
21 Mets RHP A.J. Burnett, 3B Ty Wigginton, SS Jose Reyes, CF Endy Chavez, RHP Jae Seo
22 Devil Rays 3B Aubrey Huff, LF Carl Crawford, LHP Joe Kennedy, C Toby Hall, CF Rocco Baldelli
23 Twins LF Jacque Jones, 1B Doug Mientkiewicz, RF Bobby Kielty, RF Mike Cuddyer, 1B Justin Morneau
24 Padres RHP Rodrigo Lopez, RHP Brian Lawrence, RHP Jake Peavy, LHP Oliver Perez, SS Khalil Greene
25 Royals CF Carlos Beltran, 2B Mark Ellis, CF David DeJesus, LHP Jeremy Affeldt, LHP Jimmy Gobble
26 Giants RHP Russ Ortiz, RHP Joe Nathan, LHP Noah Lowry, RHP Jerome Williams, RHP Scott Linebrink
27 Tigers RHP Jeff Weaver, 3B Brandon Inge, 2B Omar Infante, SS Ramon Santiago, CF Curtis Granderson
28 Orioles 2B Brian Roberts, OF David Dellucci, LHP Erik Bedard, RHP Daniel Cabrera, RHP Rick Bauer
29 Dodgers SS Alex Cora, RHP Eric Gagne, C David Ross, CF Shane Victorino, RHP Scott Proctor
30 Brewers LF Geoff Jenkins, RHP Ben Sheets, SS Bill Hall, 2B Rickie Weeks, 1B Prince Fielder