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Mar 14, 2007 21:26:30 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 14, 2007 21:26:30 GMT -5
This was a bad day for A-Rod to have a poor game.
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A-Rod
Mar 14, 2007 21:39:56 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 14, 2007 21:39:56 GMT -5
It was meaningless.
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A-Rod
Mar 14, 2007 21:53:13 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 14, 2007 21:53:13 GMT -5
Yeah, but the idiots in the media will feast on it.
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A-Rod
Mar 14, 2007 22:29:59 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 14, 2007 22:29:59 GMT -5
Then they are idiots.
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A-Rod
Mar 15, 2007 7:35:58 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 15, 2007 7:35:58 GMT -5
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A-Rod
Mar 15, 2007 10:15:20 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 15, 2007 10:15:20 GMT -5
So who cares what they say?
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Mar 15, 2007 10:40:15 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 15, 2007 10:40:15 GMT -5
So who cares what they say? Because it creates a firestorm and an atmosphere among some of the fans who buy tickets.
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A-Rod
Mar 15, 2007 11:04:21 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 15, 2007 11:04:21 GMT -5
Still, who cares? It's all bs.
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Mar 16, 2007 0:10:58 GMT -5
Post by pemoco on Mar 16, 2007 0:10:58 GMT -5
a bad day in a ST game doesn't matter a whole lot.
A-Rod needs to start the regular season reasonably well to prevent the media from getting even more out of control.
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chaka
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A-Rod
Mar 16, 2007 20:51:15 GMT -5
Post by chaka on Mar 16, 2007 20:51:15 GMT -5
3/29 his last 2 playoff series
i don't think it is out of the realm of possiblities that his fragile ego can't handle the heat of NY in the postseason.
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A-Rod
Mar 16, 2007 21:05:51 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 16, 2007 21:05:51 GMT -5
ARod made a good point about how he needs to take his walks and not try to hit 5 run homers every time up in the post season. He gets pitched around he's been less selective when he needs to get more selective. He talked about it on M and MD the other day.
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A-Rod
Mar 16, 2007 21:18:37 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 16, 2007 21:18:37 GMT -5
3/29 his last 2 playoff series i don't think it is out of the realm of possiblities that his fragile ego can't handle the heat of NY in the postseason. Did he handle the pressure when he carried us in the alds against Minny. He also should have been the mvp in a win against Boston, but we couldn't hold the lead. Maybe Matsui can't handle the pressure either. He left A-Rod on a billion times against Anaheim.
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chaka
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Mar 17, 2007 7:39:29 GMT -5
Post by chaka on Mar 17, 2007 7:39:29 GMT -5
3/29 his last 2 playoff series i don't think it is out of the realm of possiblities that his fragile ego can't handle the heat of NY in the postseason. Did he handle the pressure when he carried us in the alds against Minny. He also should have been the mvp in a win against Boston, but we couldn't hold the lead. Maybe Matsui can't handle the pressure either. He left A-Rod on a billion times against Anaheim. every time arod opens his mouth, it's pretty clear that he is dealing poorly with the pressure of being arod. why is it inconceivable that it has affected his play? just a couple of posts back, there was a worry about him being booed in spring training. he's fragile emotionally.
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A-Rod
Mar 17, 2007 14:29:42 GMT -5
Post by michael123 on Mar 17, 2007 14:29:42 GMT -5
ARod made a good point about how he needs to take his walks and not try to hit 5 run homers every time up in the post season. He gets pitched around he's been less selective when he needs to get more selective. He talked about it on M and MD the other day. A-Rod had a fantastic interview with M-n-M. Russo was right he is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. I personally think he will have a bounce back season and quiet the critics, as well as get a new Yankee contract.
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A-Rod
Mar 18, 2007 15:48:53 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 18, 2007 15:48:53 GMT -5
Did he handle the pressure when he carried us in the alds against Minny. He also should have been the mvp in a win against Boston, but we couldn't hold the lead. Maybe Matsui can't handle the pressure either. He left A-Rod on a billion times against Anaheim. every time arod opens his mouth, it's pretty clear that he is dealing poorly with the pressure of being arod. why is it inconceivable that it has affected his play? just a couple of posts back, there was a worry about him being booed in spring training. he's fragile emotionally. I guess those playoff series where he excelled didn't exist and no else on the team has failed the last few seasons.
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chaka
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Mar 18, 2007 17:23:32 GMT -5
Post by chaka on Mar 18, 2007 17:23:32 GMT -5
every time arod opens his mouth, it's pretty clear that he is dealing poorly with the pressure of being arod. why is it inconceivable that it has affected his play? just a couple of posts back, there was a worry about him being booed in spring training. he's fragile emotionally. I guess those playoff series where he excelled didn't exist and no else on the team has failed the last few seasons. 3 years ago yep, i guess i am wrong. arod has just really thrived in new york. really shown a propensity to handle the pressure. that's why you aren't worried at all about some booing he got in a spring training game
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A-Rod
Mar 18, 2007 18:14:47 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 18, 2007 18:14:47 GMT -5
It's been 2.5 post season series.
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Mar 18, 2007 19:58:26 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 18, 2007 19:58:26 GMT -5
I'm worried about the shitstorm affecting the team and hearing bullshit stories for months on end again. Buy you're right. He didn't win an mvp award in ny. And he didn't perform well in every playoff series and he's the only reason we lost those series.
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chaka
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Mar 18, 2007 20:06:46 GMT -5
Post by chaka on Mar 18, 2007 20:06:46 GMT -5
he's the only reason we lost those series. i've never said or implied that there's a happy medium between being one of those schmucks who boo's his every at bat and having my tongue on his balls. he's a great player. but i also think it is pretty clear that NY is getting to him.
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A-Rod
Mar 18, 2007 20:35:20 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 18, 2007 20:35:20 GMT -5
What's pretty clear is that he's held to a ridiculous standard and gets blamed for anything that goes wrong.
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Mar 19, 2007 2:45:40 GMT -5
Post by danb on Mar 19, 2007 2:45:40 GMT -5
I watched Mantle strike out to end games several times, but noone came down on him.
Maybe Arod needs to get drunk with teammates more.
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Mar 19, 2007 10:38:40 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 19, 2007 10:38:40 GMT -5
Wasn't Mantle booed throughout the `50's?
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Mar 19, 2007 11:59:12 GMT -5
Post by mpep on Mar 19, 2007 11:59:12 GMT -5
Mantle was booed until Maris took over in 1961. Arod was clearly the MVP of the Twins series in 04. He would likely have been the MVP of the Boston series that same year if a) Jeter had hit a lick in that series (he was awful for seven games) b) Mo doesn't blow a save and does poorly in another game c) Gordon isn't horrible every time he pitches d) Kevin Brown has a decent start in game 7 (he'd done OK vs. the Twins in that series.)
The other series have a lot more goats than Arod. How about the 10 for 52 between Matsui, Posada, and Giambi in 2005 vs. the Angels not to mention Moose and RJ having a lousy start each. In 2006 Cano went 2-15, Damon 4-17, Matsui 4-16, Shef 1-12, Giambi 1-8. That's a combined 12-68 (176 BA). In that same series, we had lousy pitching-including bad start from RJ, Moose, and Wright and a spectacularly bad relief appearance from Lidle.
Out of four postseason series, Arod was the obvious MVP of one, a strong candidate for MVP in another, and was one of the (god-awful) crowd in two others. How the hell does that equate to not having done well in the play-offs in NY? (The correct answer is that the media-just like when he first went to Texas and ESPN gleefully announced every strike-out that April)-cherry picks their numbers and ignores anything he does good or anybody else does bad.)
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chaka
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Mar 19, 2007 12:26:32 GMT -5
Post by chaka on Mar 19, 2007 12:26:32 GMT -5
Mantle was booed until Maris took over in 1961. Arod was clearly the MVP of the Twins series in 04. He would likely have been the MVP of the Boston series that same year if a) Jeter had hit a lick in that series (he was awful for seven games) b) Mo doesn't blow a save and does poorly in another game c) Gordon isn't horrible every time he pitches d) Kevin Brown has a decent start in game 7 (he'd done OK vs. the Twins in that series.) The other series have a lot more goats than Arod. How about the 10 for 52 between Matsui, Posada, and Giambi in 2005 vs. the Angels not to mention Moose and RJ having a lousy start each. In 2006 Cano went 2-15, Damon 4-17, Matsui 4-16, Shef 1-12, Giambi 1-8. That's a combined 12-68 (176 BA). In that same series, we had lousy pitching-including bad start from RJ, Moose, and Wright and a spectacularly bad relief appearance from Lidle. Out of four postseason series, Arod was the obvious MVP of one, a strong candidate for MVP in another, and was one of the (god-awful) crowd in two others. How the hell does that equate to not having done well in the play-offs in NY? (The correct answer is that the media-just like when he first went to Texas and ESPN gleefully announced every strike-out that April)-cherry picks their numbers and ignores anything he does good or anybody else does bad.) 1 horrible playoff series followed by a season in which he had the lowest leverage of the 35 players closest to him in ops followed by another horrible playoff series. why is it it so hard to believe that his play has been impacted by having 50k home fans expecting him to fail and booing him the second he does? ?
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A-Rod
Mar 19, 2007 13:28:06 GMT -5
Post by mpep on Mar 19, 2007 13:28:06 GMT -5
"1 horrible playoff series followed by a season in which he had the lowest leverage of the 35 players closest to him in ops followed by another horrible playoff series." I'm not sure what that all means, but if You're saying 2005 post-season was bad, the 2006 season was only very good and not excellent, and the 2006 post-season was lousy my response is "proving what?" He was MVP in 2005, had an excellent year in 2004, was arguably the MVP of 2 of his 4 play-off series, In 2006 had the third best OPS among MLB 3B (higher than the universally acclaimed season of David Wright and higher than Aramis Ramirez and Scott Rolen). In addition, his OPS in 2006 was higher than Derek Jeter who was in a lot of MVP conversations. Since Arod arrived in NY he has a 945 OPS. Since he's a better SS than Jeter and only moved in deference to him, I think it's fair to compare their stats as if they played the same position. DJ's OPS over the same period is 854. I really don't see how hitting nearly 100 points higher over a three year stretch gets him analyzed to death and his play criticized while Jeter is universally praised.
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A-Rod
Mar 21, 2007 13:16:02 GMT -5
Post by sinctybldh on Mar 21, 2007 13:16:02 GMT -5
John Heyman on Stephen A. Smith said Brian Cashman publicly stated that he will not go after Alex Rodriguez if he opts out of his contract.
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A-Rod
Mar 21, 2007 13:17:01 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 21, 2007 13:17:01 GMT -5
Go after. As in not try to sign him?
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Mar 21, 2007 13:33:21 GMT -5
Post by David Goodman on Mar 21, 2007 13:33:21 GMT -5
That thread on bbi is a disaster.
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Mar 21, 2007 13:39:34 GMT -5
Post by philinla on Mar 21, 2007 13:39:34 GMT -5
I don't think he'll opt out.
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Mar 21, 2007 14:16:21 GMT -5
Post by sinctybldh on Mar 21, 2007 14:16:21 GMT -5
Go after as in chase him in free agency. They will not get into a bidding war for Arod.
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